Well, Dar and Jackie are gone. We helped pack their bags and I carried them all down to the car. There were three bags that were hugs and the biggest one, I found out later, was filled with a bunch of stuff including Jackie's reasearch books. *shrugs* ... anyways ... while I was battling the wind, snow and slush I pulled out my back lifting all the bags ... then I had a gym bag between my legs all the way up to TO which cramped my back up even more ... I swear the car was FULL of their stuff ... but they've been living here for how long now ... whatever ... the point is ... Im in an extreme amount of pain and could really go for a massage